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Knowing Your Drum Set Cymbals?
I started drumming a few years ago and am starting to make a full investment in my drums. Until now I’ve been playing on some fake brand drums and cymbals.
First, whenever I see small bands, the drummer usually has like 5 cymbals: hi hats, crash, ride, and what are the two others (one is usually small)?
Second, what would be the best brand (zildjian, paiste, sabian) and make of the cymbal? I really wish to know what the other 2 cymbals are.
My friend currently has 14″ hats, 20″ ride, 16″ china (looks kinda like an upside down cymbal),3 16″ crashes (totally different sounds), and 10″ & 8″ splashes (tiny cymbals). As for brands…Just gotta hit them and see what sound you like. We got one crash, hats and the ride in a pack. Zildjian’s Planet Z starter pack. They’re pretty good sounding. Deeper undertone than Hubby normally likes but pretty good. The 2 other crashes are Sabians as well as the splashes and the china is a Meinl.
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about 3 years ago
There is no 'standard' setup of cymbals, as such. You play with whatever you think will help your sound – I personally use hats, crash and x2 big rides. Sometimes I just use hats/ride. It's all a matter of what sound you want or need.
However, I believe you are referring to splash (small) and china (trashy and odd-looking).
There is no "best brand", either. Go to your local drum store, try some out and decide which you think sounds best.
Check out other brands too, like Istanbul, Bosphorus and Turkish.
EDIT: How could I forget Meinl and UFIP? The shame. Kudos to Methor & Heather for noting them, but I'm a lowly level 1 and can't thumbsup anyone yet.
My first "proper" set of cymbals were Meinl Classics (plus an Amun series crash), very loud and perfect for rock.
My drum teacher was a fan of UFIP. Very nice cymbals indeed, but rather on the expensive side for me and difficult to find second-hand due to (a) lack of popularity, and (b) they sound GREAT so people don't often part with them! It'd be worth finding a store that stocks these just to try them if you have a decent budget.
Also, don't be afraid to buy second-hand. Some cymbal sounds become really nice when the cymbal has seen a bit of use – particularly in ranges which are overly bright to some when new (like Zildjian A and Sabian AA).
Currently I use Zildjian (13" K hats, 16" A crash, 20" K ride) and Turkish (22" Classic ride), all bought used. The hats and rides are dark, menacing and enveloping, while the crash (VERY used) is fairly thin and cuts through nicely when needed.
This setup is exactly what I like to play with and works well for me (not to mention sounds great with a 70's wood/fiberglass kit, but that's just bragging), while others prefer quite different setups (as seen in other answers).
Of course, cymbals tend to be expensive, which is another reason to buy from eBay, drum magazines or local stores.References : Experience
about 3 years ago
well i seem to like the sabian aax they are decent cymbals
splash or a china, zil bellReferences :
about 3 years ago
Theres alot of different types,but mostly it all depends on what you wanna play,come up with so your ears are your best choiceReferences :
about 3 years ago
Some parts of your question have been answered. Often times you will see more than one crash or ride. But the types of cymbals are usually crash, ride, hi-hats, splash or china.
I have been playing for over 30 years. I am a cymbal junkie.
I will agree with one of the previous people and say there is no best brand. Every brand makes good and bad stuff. Depends totally on your taste.
Go to a drum shop and hit some cymbals till you hear a sound you like. Now price can also be a issue but there are some good ones even in the entry level area. Do not be afraid to check into used cymbals either, sometimes you can find a gem. I would also recommend going with quality over quantity right now. Better to have a few good sounding cymbals than a bunch of OK but not great ones.
There is a another person who recommended some other lesser known brands another one is UFIP, they are made in Italy. Very nice cymbals. They also have a top notch entry level too.
Again I have to say go and listen to some before you even think about buying. Also look at some of the drummers you like or the songs you like and find out what they are playing.
Good luck.References :
about 3 years ago
My Husband currently has 14" hats, 20" ride, 16" china (looks kinda like an upside down cymbal),3 16" crashes (totally different sounds), and 10" & 8" splashes (tiny cymbals).
As for brands…Just gotta hit them and see what sound you like.
We got one crash, hats and the ride in a pack. Zildjian's Planet Z starter pack. They're pretty good sounding. Deeper undertone than Hubby normally likes but pretty good. The 2 other crashes are Sabians as well as the splashes and the china is a Meinl.
"the drummer usually has like 5 cymbals: hi hats, crash, ride, and what are the two others"
Like others have said the small one is a "splash" and the other one is either a China crash or a second crash (usually a different size from the first one).References : My Hubby likes a lot of "Brass" (cymbals) on his kit.
Picture of his current set-up. No splashes right now and only 2 crashes. From front to back. Hi-hat's, planet Z crash, Sabian crash, ride and China
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2131/drumsbp4.jp…
about 1 year ago
I think that is an interesting point, it made me think a bit. Thanks for sparking my thinking cap. Sometimes I get so much in a rut that I just feel like a record.
about 1 year ago
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